Arhiva oznaka: Atlantida

Trag vodi u Sais — sveto jezero i zapis iz vremena kralja Amasisa

Prije nego što krenemo u potragu za Atlantidom, upoznajmo drevni egipatski grad u kojem je, prema Platonovu pripovijedanju, započela priča o davno izgubljenom svijetu.

U zapadnoj delti Nila, među plodnim ravnicama i nekadašnjim riječnim kanalima, nalazio se Sais, drevni grad čija je povijest bila usko povezana s božicom Neit.

Danas se ostaci grada nalaze na lokalitetu Sa el-Hagar u Egiptu. Nekadašnje građevine uglavnom su nestale ili su sačuvane samo u fragmentima, ali antički tekstovi, egipatski natpisi i suvremena istraživanja omogućuju nam da postupno rekonstruiramo njegovu prošlost.

Sais je posebno važan za našu potragu jer ga Platon u dijalogu Timej povezuje s predajom o Atlantidi. No prije nego što krenemo za tom pričom, potrebno je upoznati stvarni grad i tragove koji su doista sačuvani.

Grad božice Neit

Sais je bio jedno od najvažnijih središta kulta egipatske božice Neit. Njezin kult imao je dugu povijest, a grad je tijekom stoljeća stjecao sve veći vjerski i politički značaj.

U 7. stoljeću prije Krista Sais postaje sjedište vladara koji će osnovati 26. egipatsku dinastiju. Za vrijeme te dinastije, a osobito pod kraljem Amasisom II., grad je bio važno središte kraljevske vlasti i vjerskog života.

Upravo iz tog razdoblja potječu tragovi koji nam pomažu razumjeti kako je izgledao sveti prostor posvećen Neit.

Horkhebijev natpis — svjedočanstvo iz drevnog Egipta

Jedan od najzanimljivijih izvora jest biografski natpis na stražnjem stupu kipa egipatskog dužnosnika Horkhebija.

U natpisu Horkhebi govori o izgradnji svetog jezera povezanog s Neit i bogovima područja Saisa, po nalogu kralja Amasisa.

Prema prijevodu objavljenom u stručnoj literaturi, jezero je bilo obloženo kamenom, imalo je osam stubišta i bilo okruženo zidovima. Natpis navodi dimenzije od 68 lakata u duljinu i približno 65 lakata u širinu. Suvremena istraživanja te mjere preračunavaju na približno 35,6 × 34,1 metar, uz napomenu da je jedna od brojki u čitanju natpisa nesigurna.

To nije zapis o Atlantidi. Njegova je važnost u tome što nam pruža konkretan trag o stvarnom građevinskom projektu u Saisu i o povezanosti vode, arhitekture i religijskog života.

Ovdje se naša priča prvi put čvrsto oslanja na sačuvani egipatski natpis.

Herodot i sveto jezero

Grčki povjesničar Herodot posjetio je Egipat u 5. stoljeću prije Krista. U drugoj knjizi svojih Povijesti, u odlomku 2.170, opisuje sveti prostor u Saisu, velike kamene obeliske i jezero obrubljeno kamenom.

Herodot uspoređuje veličinu jezera s jezerom na grčkom otoku Delosu. U sljedećem odlomku spominje noćne obrede povezane s egipatskim vjerskim predajama.

Njegov opis zanimljiv je kada ga usporedimo s Horkhebijevim natpisom. Jedan izvor donosi osobno svjedočanstvo grčkog autora, dok drugi bilježi radove egipatskog dužnosnika. Oba upućuju na postojanje važnog svetog jezera u Saisu.

Suvremeni istraživači proučavaju stare kanale, prirodne vodene tokove i ostatke nekadašnjeg krajolika kako bi bolje razumjeli gdje se sveti prostor nalazio. Ipak, točan položaj jezera i njegov odnos prema nekadašnjem hramskom kompleksu nisu u potpunosti razriješeni.

Suvremena geoarheološka istraživanja pokušavaju rekonstruirati nekadašnji krajolik Saisa analizom podzemnih slojeva, tragova drevnih vodenih tokova i geofizičkih podataka. Istraživači su razmatrali i vapnenačke blokove pronađene u blizini mogućeg izvora vode, koji su možda pripadali kamenoj oblozi svetog jezera. Ipak, zasad nije moguće sa sigurnošću utvrditi njegov točan položaj ni potpuno rekonstruirati njegov izvorni oblik.

Što nam govore ovi tragovi?

Horkhebijev natpis i Herodotov opis potvrđuju da je Sais bio mnogo više od imena u jednoj staroj priči. Bio je stvaran grad s važnim svetištem, uređenim vodenim prostorom i dugom vjerskom tradicijom.

Međutim, ni natpis ni Herodot ne spominju Atlantidu.

To je važno razlikovati. Povijesni izvori potvrđuju postojanje grada i njegova svetog prostora, dok je priča o Atlantidi poznata iz Platonovih dijaloga. Jedno nam pomaže razumjeti povijesno okruženje, ali ne dokazuje automatski drugo.

Trag koji vodi prema Atlantidi

U Platonovu Timeju, u odlomcima 21e–23c, Sais postaje mjesto na kojem se, prema pripovijedanju, susreću grčka prošlost i egipatsko sjećanje.

Platon piše da je Solon, atenski zakonodavac i pjesnik, razgovarao s egipatskim svećenicima te čuo predaju o događajima mnogo starijima od poznate grčke povijesti. Iz tog razgovora razvija se priča o drevnoj Ateni i Atlantidi.

Nemamo neovisan egipatski zapis koji potvrđuje da se taj razgovor dogodio ili da su svećenici doista posjedovali zapis o Atlantidi. Zato ćemo Platonovu pripovijest istraživati ozbiljno, ali bez pretvaranja književnog svjedočanstva u potvrđenu povijesnu činjenicu.

Sais nam pruža stvarno povijesno polazište. Atlantida nas vodi prema pitanju na koje tek trebamo pokušati odgovoriti.

U sljedećem nastavku upoznat ćemo božicu Neit, njezino mjesto u egipatskoj religiji i vezu koju Platon povlači između nje i grčke Atene.

Naša potraga nastavlja se ondje gdje se susreću povijest, drevna predaja i pitanja na koja još nemamo konačan odgovor.


Izvori i literatura

  1. Platon, Timej, 21e–23c.
  2. Herodot, Povijesti, knjiga II., odlomci 170–175.
  3. Eva Lange-Athinodorou, „Implications of geoarchaeological investigations for the contextualization of sacred landscapes in the Nile Delta”, E&G Quaternary Science Journal, 70, 2021., str. 73–82. Pročitaj znanstveni rad.
  4. The Global Egyptian Museum, „Sais”. Povijesni pregled grada.

Napomena o ilustraciji: prikaz svetog jezera i hramskog kompleksa autorska je rekonstrukcija nadahnuta povijesnim opisima. Ne predstavlja fotografiju stvarnog Saisa niti potvrđeni tlocrt njegova hrama.

Autor: Zoran Maričić aka Dag Dagoberovic

PLATONOVA ATLANTIDA

Tekstualna, metrologijska i prostorna rekonstrukcija

Između drevne predaje, povijesti i izgubljenog svijeta

Radna karta: model izgrađen od unutrašnjosti prema van. Karta je ilustracija rekonstrukcije, ne dokaz stvarne geografije.

SADRŽAJ

I. PRIČA KOJU NAM JE PRENIO PLATON

1. Kako je priča o Atlantidi došla do Platona

2. Timaej 20d–26e

3. Kritija 108c–121c

II. OTOK, KRALJEVI I GRADOVI

4. Atlantida kao golemi otok

5. Posejdon, Kleito i deset sinova — obiteljsko stablo

6. Atlasovo kraljevstvo

7. Velika ravnica

8. Planinski kompleks

9. Kraljevska metropola

10. Kanali i vodni sustav

11. Poljoprivredni sustav

12. Podjela ravnice

13. Devet ostalih kraljevstava

14. Vanjski dijelovi Atlantide

III. MJERE I PROSTOR

15. Stadion, plethron i stopa

16. Modeli A, B i C

17. Tablica svih Platonovih mjera

IV. REKONSTRUKCIJA ATLANTIDE

18. Gradnja Atlantide od unutrašnjosti prema van

19. Atlasovo središte

20. Devet klasičnih kraljevstava

21. Glavna karta

V. GRANICE ONOGA ŠTO ZNAMO

VI. IZMEĐU IZVORA I TUMAČENJA

VII. ONDJE GDJE IZVORI ŠUTE

VIII. IZVORI I LITERATURA

I. PRIČA KOJU NAM JE PRENIO PLATON

Slijedi hrvatski radni prijevod relevantnih dijelova Timaeja i Kritije. Oznake Stephanusove paginacije omogućuju provjeru mjesta u Platonovu tekstu.

Platonova Atlantida

Između drevne predaje, povijesti i izgubljenog svijeta

Priča o Atlantidi dolazi nam iz dubine vremena. Prema Platonovu pripovijedanju, njezino je sjećanje sačuvano u egipatskim zapisima, preneseno preko svećenika iz Saisa do Solona, a zatim kroz naraštaje stiglo do Kritije.

U toj se priči susreću dva svijeta: drevni Egipat, čuvar svetih zapisa i uspomena na davne katastrofe, te Atlantida, golemi otok čija je moć nekoć sezala daleko izvan njegovih granica. Platon nam opisuje njezino podrijetlo, bogatstvo, gradove, kanale, kraljeve i zakone, ali i postupno slabljenje vrline koje prethodi njezinoj propasti.

Što se iza te priče doista nalazi, a što ostaje nepoznato? Da bismo to istražili, moramo najprije poslušati Platonove riječi, upoznati svijet iz kojega priča navodno potječe i tek potom prijeći granicu poznatoga. Ondje gdje izvori završavaju, započinje rekonstrukcija — jasno označena kao mogućnost, tumačenje ili slobodni autorski izričaj.

Glavni tekst: Timaej 20d–26e i Kritija 108c–121c. Kritija je sačuvana samo djelomično i prekida se upravo nakon što Zeus okuplja bogove kako bi presudio Atlantidi.

Prevoditeljska napomena: hrvatski tekst u ovom izdanju nije prepisan iz postojećeg modernog hrvatskog prijevoda, nego je sastavljen kao nova radna interpretacija prema grčkom tekstu i usporedbi javno dostupnih klasičnih izdanja i prijevoda. Brojevi 20d, 24e, 113c itd. slijede standardnu Stephanusovu paginaciju.

Sadržaj

1. Kako je priča o Atlantidi došla do Platona

2. Timaej 20d–26e — hrvatski prijevod

3. Kritija 108c–121c — hrvatski prijevod

4. Što izravno proizlazi iz Platonova teksta

5. Što Platon ne kaže

6. Osnova za budući istraživački i književni projekt

7. Izvori i literatura

1. Kako je priča o Atlantidi došla do Platona

U Timaeju Kritija priču predstavlja kao veoma staru predaju. Prema njegovu kazivanju, Solon je u Egiptu u gradu Saisu razgovarao sa svećenicima koji su čuvali zapise o drevnoj prošlosti. Svećenik mu govori da Grci slabo poznaju vlastitu davnu povijest jer su ih velike katastrofe i protok vremena više puta vraćali gotovo na početak. U toj predaji postoji i sjećanje na drevne Atenjane koji su se suprotstavili velikoj sili koja je došla s područja Atlantika. Kritija zatim tvrdi da je priču u njegovoj obitelji prenio Solon, da ju je njegov djed zapamtio i da ju je on kao dječak naučio. U Kritiji se dodatno objašnjava da su imena koja zvuče grčki navodno rezultat prevođenja: egipatski su zapisi trebali sadržavati izvorna imena, a Solon ih je prenio u grčki oblik. Za naš budući projekt ovo je važno jer sam Platon ne stavlja priču u jednostavan okvir: istodobno je prikazuje kao drevnu povijesnu predaju, kao pripovijest o idealnoj državi i kao filozofski primjer odnosa vrline, bogatstva, moći i propasti. Suvremena literatura upravo zato raspravlja treba li je čitati kao povijest, filozofsku priču, političku parabolu ili kombinaciju navedenoga. Jedna stvar je ipak čvrsta: jedini izvor koji izravno opisuje Atlantidu kao takvu jest Platonov Timaej–Kritija. Kasnije antičke i moderne priče nadograđuju, tumače ili traže lokaciju Atlantide, ali nisu dodatni izvor koji bi neovisno potvrdio Platonov opis.

2. Timaej 20d–26e — hrvatski prijevod

Napomena: u ovom dijelu priču kazuje Kritija, a u okviru dijaloga ona se predstavlja kao sjećanje koje je došlo preko Solona i egipatskih svećenika.

20d–21a

Kritija: Dopustite mi da vam najprije kažem kako sam kao dijete čuo priču koju sada iznosim. Tada je moj djed Kritija, kako je govorio, bio već gotovo devedesetogodišnjak, a ja sam imao otprilike deset godina. Bili smo na svetkovini Apaturija, a običaj je bio da dječaci izgovaraju pjesme. Čule su se pjesme mnogih pjesnika, a Solonove su u ono vrijeme bile još nove, pa smo ih mnogi slušali. Netko iz našeg roda rekao je da je Solon, među ostalim stvarima, bio najmudriji čovjek i najplemenitiji među pjesnicima. Moj se djed tome veoma obradovao i rekao da bi Solon, da nije pjesništvo smatrao sporednom stvari, nego ozbiljno dovršio ono što je donio iz Egipta, nadmašio i Hezioda i Homera i sve druge pjesnike.

21b–22a

Na moje pitanje kakva je to priča bila, odgovorio je da je riječ o najvećem i najpoznatijem pothvatu koji je naš grad ikada izvršio, pothvatu koji je zbog vremena i propasti ljudi koji su ga izveli ostao nepoznat kasnijim naraštajima. Tada sam ga upitao što je to bilo. Rekao je da je riječ o djelu koje je naš grad izvršio prije mnogo vremena, a koje je Solon čuo od egipatskih svećenika.

22b–23a

Kritija: Svećenik je Solonu rekao da ste vi Grci djeca, jer nemate drevne predaje koje bi mogle sačuvati sjećanje na vrlo stare događaje. Rekao je da mnoge poplave dolaze kroz duga razdoblja i da one uništavaju ljude koji ne poznaju pismo ili zapise. Zato se u vašoj zemlji često pamti samo posljednja velika katastrofa, dok su starije zaboravljene. Egipćani, nasuprot tome, čuvaju zapise o davnim vremenima. Zato znaju ono što vi više ne znate.

23b–23c

Svećenik je zatim rekao da je prije najveće poplave Atena bila izvanredno uređena država i da je imala najplemenitije ljude. Prema zapisima koje je pokazao Solonu, drevna Atena imala je velike pothvate i bila je osobito slavna po svojoj vrlini i vojnoj snazi.

23d–24c

Solon je, zadivljen, zamolio svećenika da mu ispriča cijelu priču. Svećenik mu je rekao da će to učiniti, osobito zbog božice koja je zaštitnica i njihove i atenske zemlje. Prema toj predaji, božica je Atenu utemeljila prije Egipta i uredila je tako da njezini stanovnici budu sposobni za mudrost i ratničku izvrsnost. Atenjani su živjeli prema zakonima i običajima koji su ih, prema priči, učinili izvanredno vrlima.

24d–25a

Mnoga velika djela vašega grada, kaže svećenik, zapisana su u našim zapisima. Ali jedno se među njima osobito ističe veličinom i plemenitošću. Zapisi govore kako je vaš grad nekoć zaustavio silu koja je, krenuvši s područja Atlantskog mora, oholo napadala čitavu Europu i Aziju. U ono je vrijeme to more bilo plovno. Pred njegovim otvorom, koji vi Grci nazivate Heraklovim stupovima, nalazio se otok veći od Libije i Azije zajedno. S tog se otoka moglo putovati na druge otoke, a preko njih i do suprotne kopnene mase koja okružuje ono pravo more.

25a–25b

Ono što je unutar tjesnaca koji spominjemo izgleda kao luka s uskim ulazom, dok je ono s druge strane doista veliko more, a kopno koje ga okružuje s pravom bi se moglo nazvati kontinentom. Na tom otoku Atlantidi postojala je velika i čudesna kraljevska sila. Vladala je cijelim otokom, mnogim drugim otocima i dijelovima kopna. Unutar tjesnaca njezina se vlast protezala po Libiji sve do Egipta, a po Europi sve do Tirenskoga područja. Sva se ta sila jednom ujedinila i pokušala jednim napadom porobiti i našu i vašu zemlju te sve krajeve unutar tjesnaca.

25b–25d

Tada se, Solone, snaga vašega grada pokazala pred svim ljudima. Atena se istaknula hrabrošću i ratničkim umijećem; predvodila je Grke, a kada su je drugi napustili, borila se sama. Došla je do najvećih opasnosti, pobijedila napadače i podigla spomenik pobjede. One koji još nisu bili porobljeni spasila je od ropstva, a sve nas koji živimo unutar Heraklovih granica oslobodila je bez zadrške.

25d

Kasnije su nastali silni potresi i poplave. U jednom teškom danu i noći cijela je vaša ratnička sila odjednom propala pod zemlju, a otok Atlantida na isti je način potonuo pod more i nestao. Zbog toga je ondje i danas more neprohodno i neistraživo, jer ga otežava plitko blato koje je otok stvorio kada je potonuo.

25e–26e

Kritija: To je, Sokrate, ukratko priča koju je stariji Kritija čuo od Solona. Kada si jučer govorio o državi i građanima koje si opisivao, prisjetio sam se svega toga i zadivio se koliko se tvoj opis podudara s onim što je Solon čuo. Nisam se usudio odmah govoriti jer je prošlo mnogo vremena od kada sam to čuo, ali sada mislim da bismo mogli pokušati priču izložiti u cijelosti. 26e Sokrat odgovara da priču treba prihvatiti, jer je prikladna svetkovini božice koja se upravo održava, a osobito zato što se tvrdi da nije izmišljena priča nego stvarna predaja o prošlim događajima.

3. Kritija 108c–121c — hrvatski prijevod

Ovdje počinje opširniji opis drevne Atene i Atlantide. Tekst Kritije je nedovršen: sačuvani rukopis završava upravo nakon Zeusova okupljanja bogova.

108c–109a

Kritija: Najprije se moramo prisjetiti da je, prema predaji, prošlo devet tisuća godina od rata između onih koji su živjeli s onu stranu Heraklovih stupova i svih onih koji su živjeli unutar njih. Taj rat sada trebamo ispričati. Na jednoj je strani, kako se govori, stajao naš grad i vodio cijeli rat; na drugoj su bili kraljevi otoka Atlantide, za koji smo rekli da je nekoć bio veći od Libije i Azije zajedno, a sada je zbog potresa potonuo i ostavio neprohodno blato koje onima koji odavde plove prema otvorenom moru više ne dopušta prolaz.

109b–110a

Bogovi su nekoć ždrijebom podijelili cijelu zemlju prema krajevima, ne nakon sukoba. Svaki je dobio ono što mu pripada i nastanio svoj kraj. Kao pastiri, ali ne silom nad tijelom nego uvjeravanjem i upravljanjem dušom, usmjeravali su smrtna bića. U drugim su krajevima drugi bogovi uredili svoje posjede. Hefest i Atena, koji su po naravi bili srodni i povezani ljubavlju prema mudrosti i umijeću, zajednički su dobili našu zemlju. Ona je bila prirodno prikladna za vrlinu i razboritost, pa su u njoj podigli dobre ljude i uredili njihov način života.

110b–111e

Imena tih ljudi ostala su sačuvana, ali su njihova djela nestala zbog propadanja naraštaja i dugog protoka vremena. Preživjeli su, nakon katastrofa, bili uglavnom nepismeni planinski ljudi koji su znali samo imena nekadašnjih vladara i ponešto o njihovim djelima. Tako su imena prelazila na potomke, ali znanje o zakonima i velikim djelima predaka gotovo je nestalo. Tek kada bi ljudi osigurali osnovne životne potrebe, počeli bi se baviti pričama o starini.

111b–112e

Plodna drevna Atena bila je, prema opisu, mnogo bogatija tlom nego što je kasnije postala. Potresi i poplave odnijeli su zemlju s viših predjela. Plodno tlo više se nije taložilo kao u nekim drugim krajevima, nego je nestajalo u dubini mora. Ono što je ostalo uspoređuje se s kosturom bolesnog čovjeka kojemu je nestala sva mekoća i masnoća, pa je ostao samo okvir zemlje. Nekada su planine bile šumovite, doline bogate, a voda se zadržavala u dubokom tlu. Izvori i potoci davali su dovoljno vode. Drevni Atenjani bili su uređeni kao zajednica čuvara i ratnika, oko dvadeset tisuća ljudi sposobnih za borbu.

113a–113e

Prije nego što počnem pričati o Atlantidi, moram objasniti zašto ću među barbarima često koristiti grčka imena. Solon je, kada je namjeravao priču upotrijebiti u pjesništvu, istražio značenja imena. Egipćani koji su ih prvi zapisali preveli su ih na svoj jezik; Solon je zatim obnovio njihovo značenje i prenio ih na naš jezik. Zato se nemojte čuditi ako imena zvuče grčki.

113c–114b

Posejdon je ždrijebom dobio otok Atlantidu i na njemu nastanio djecu koju je imao sa smrtnom ženom. Uz more se pružala ravnica kroz središte cijelog otoka; govorilo se da je bila najljepša i vrlo plodna. Blizu njezina središta, oko pedeset stadija od mora, uzdizao se brežuljak. Na njemu je živio Evenor, jedan od izvornih stanovnika zemlje, sa ženom Leukipom i jedinom kćeri Kleitom. Nakon što su roditelji umrli, Posejdon se zaljubio u Kleitu i uzeo je za ženu. Oko njezina je brežuljka napravio obrambene prstenove zemlje i mora: dva kopnena i tri vodena, naizmjenično, jednako udaljena od središta. U središnjem je prostoru iz zemlje izveo dva izvora, jedan topao i jedan hladan, te osigurao obilje hrane.

114a–114c

Posejdon je imao s Kleitom pet parova blizanaca. Podijelio je cijeli otok na deset dijelova. Najstarijem sinu dao je majčino prebivalište i najveći i najbolji dio zemlje te ga postavio za kralja nad ostalima. Nazvao ga je Atlasom, pa je po njemu cijeli otok dobio ime Atlantida, a more Atlantsko. Njegov mlađi brat zvao se Eumel, a u izvornom jeziku Gadeir. Ostali su bili Amfer i Evaemon; Mnezej i Autohton; Elasip i Mestor; Azaes i Diaprep. Njihovi su potomci kroz mnoge naraštaje vladali otocima i dijelovima mora, a vlast im je sezala i nad narodima Sredozemlja sve do Egipta i Tirenskog područja.

114d–115b

Atlasovi potomci imali su golemo bogatstvo. Nasljeđivanje kraljevske vlasti išlo je na najstarijeg sina. Otok je davao gotovo sve što je bilo potrebno za život: metale, drvo, divlje i domaće životinje te obilje hrane. Posebno se spominju velike količine slonova. Zemlja je davala mirisne biljke, korijenje, smole, voće, povrće i različite proizvode korisne za prehranu i uživanje. Sve je to, prema priči, raslo u izvanrednoj ljepoti i obilju.

115c–116a

Od tih su bogatstava uređivali hramove, kraljevske palače, luke i brodogradilišta. Oko drevne prijestolnice povezali su morske prstenove mostovima. Od mora su prokopali kanal do najudaljenijeg prstena: bio je tri pletra širok, sto stopa dubok i pedeset stadija dug, a ulaz je bio dovoljno velik za najveće brodove. Između kopnenih prstenova prokopani su kanali kroz koje je mogla proći jedna trijera; bili su natkriveni tako da je dio plovnoga puta prolazio pod zemljom. Vanjski vodeni prsten bio je širok tri stadija, susjedni kopneni također tri; drugi vodeni dva stadija, a kopneni uz njega dva; središnji kopneni prsten bio je širok jedan stadij. Središnji otok imao je promjer pet stadija.

116a–116c

Središnji otok, prstenove i most opasivali su kameni zidovi, a na mostovima su stajale kule i vrata. Kamen su vadili ispod središnjeg otoka i prstenova; bio je bijel, crn ili crven. Pri vađenju kamena napravili su i dva unutarnja brodogradilišta, uklesana i natkrivena prirodnim stijenama. Građevine su bile jednobojne ili ukrašene kombiniranjem različitih boja kamena. Vanjski zid obložili su mjedi, unutarnji kositrom, a zid oko akropole orihalkom, metalom koji je sjajio poput vatre.

116c–117a

U središtu kraljevske akropole nalazio se sveti prostor Kleite i Posejdona, ograđen zlatnim zidom. Ondje je, prema priči, nastalo deset kraljevskih loza. Posejdonov hram bio je dug jedan stadij i širok tri pletra. Izvana je bio obložen srebrom, osim vrhova koji su bili zlatni. Unutra su zidovi, stupovi i podovi bili prekriveni orihalkom, a strop je bio ukrašen zlatom, srebrom i orihalkom. U hramu je stajao zlatni kip Posejdona na kočiji sa šest krilatih konja, okružen stotinu Nereida na dupinima. Izvan hrama stajali su zlatni kipovi deset kraljeva i njihovih žena te brojni zavjetni darovi.

117a–117e

Topli i hladni izvori bili su obilni i pogodni za različite namjene. Oko njih su bili uređeni vrtovi i zgrade, spremnici vode i kupališta za kraljeve, građane, žene i životinje. Voda se kanalima vodila prema svetom gaju Posejdona i dalje prema vanjskim prstenovima. U različitim dijelovima grada nalazili su se hramovi, vrtovi, vježbališta i prostori za konje. U središtu velikog otoka bio je hipodrom. Brodogradilišta su bila puna trijera i opreme. Nakon tri vanjske luke dolazilo se do zida koji je okruživao grad na udaljenosti od pedeset stadija od najvećeg prstena i luke. Kuće su bile gusto poredane, a luka i plovni put bili su puni brodova i trgovaca iz mnogih krajeva.

118a–118e

Područje oko grada bilo je visoko iznad mora, dok je prostor oko grada bio ravna, široka ravnica okružena planinama koje su se protezale do mora. Ravnica je bila pravokutna, tri tisuće stadija duga sa svake strane i dvije tisuće stadija široka u sredini. Bila je okrenuta prema jugu i zaštićena od sjevernih vjetrova. Planine su bile velike i lijepe, s mnogim selima, potocima, jezerima i livadama. Ravnica je bila uređena dugim radovima mnogih kraljeva. Oko nje je bio iskopan kanal dubok jedan pletron i širok jedan stadij, dug ukupno deset tisuća stadija. U njega su se slijevali potoci s planina. Preko ravnice išli su ravni kanali široki oko sto stopa, međusobno udaljeni sto stadija, kojima se prevozilo drvo i plodovi zemlje. Zemlja se obrađivala dva puta godišnje, koristeći zimske kiše i ljetne izvore.

119a–119b

Za vojsku je svaki od deset dijelova zemlje davao jednog zapovjednika za ljude sposobne za borbu. Svaki je dio imao približno deset puta deset stadija, a ukupno ih je bilo šezdeset tisuća. Ljudi iz planina i ostatka zemlje bili su brojni i raspoređeni pod zapovjednike. Za rat je bilo predviđeno ukupno deset tisuća bojnih kola, uz konje i jahače, dodatne konje, hoplite, strijelce, praćkaše, kopljanike i mornare za dvanaest stotina brodova. Vojna organizacija drugih devet kraljevstava razlikovala se u pojedinostima.

119c–120b

Svaki od deset kraljeva vladao je svojim dijelom zemlje i svojim gradom te je imao široku vlast nad ljudima i zakonima. Međusobni odnosi kraljeva bili su uređeni zakonima Posejdona, zapisanima na orihalkovom stupu u Posejdonovu hramu u središtu otoka. Kraljevi su se sastajali svakih pet godina, a zatim naizmjenično svakih šest, tako da su jednako častili parne i neparne godine. Raspravljali su o zajedničkim poslovima i sudili onima koji bi prekršili zakone. Prije suđenja prinosili su žrtvu bika. Bikovi su slobodno hodali u svetom prostoru, a deset kraljeva lovilo ih je samo štapovima i omčama, bez željeza. Uhvaćenog bi bika doveli do stupa i zaklali iznad zapisa zakona. Krv je padala na natpis.

120a–120d

Nakon žrtve kraljevi su miješali vino i krv te pili iz zlatnih posuda. Zaklinjali su se da će suditi prema zakonima zapisanima na stupu, kazniti ranije prijestupe i ubuduće ne kršiti zapise svojom voljom. Zaklinjali su se i da neće vladati niti se pokoravati drugome osim u skladu sa zakonima svojih predaka. Nakon obreda, kada bi se vatra ugasila, odjenuli bi tamne svečane haljine i noću sjedili uz pepeo žrtve. U zoru bi svoje presude zapisali na zlatnu ploču i posvetili ih kao spomen. Najvažniji zakoni nalagali su da kraljevi nikada ne ratuju međusobno, da zajednički pomognu ako bi netko pokušao srušiti kraljevsku lozu u nekom gradu te da u zajedničkim ratnim poslovima vodstvo pripada lozi Atlasa. Kralj nije smio pogubiti drugog kralja bez pristanka više od polovice desetorice.

120e–121c

Takva je, kaže Kritija, bila veličina i narav njihove moći. Dok je božanska narav u njima bila snažna, mnoge su naraštaje živjeli poslušno zakonima i bili dobri prema svojoj božanskoj lozi. Njihove su namjere bile plemenite, a prema promjenama života i jedni prema drugima odnosili su se blago i razumno. Nisu cijenili ništa osim vrline i lako su nosili svoje ogromno bogatstvo, ne dopuštajući da ih ono opije. Shvaćali su da se bogatstvo povećava uz zajedništvo i vrlinu, a da pohlepa za bogatstvom uništava i bogatstvo i samu vrlinu.

121a–121c

Kako je njihova božanska narav postupno slabjela, a ljudska postajala jača, više nisu mogli nositi teret vlastitog bogatstva. Izgubili su ono najvrjednije u sebi i postali su, u očima onoga tko to može vidjeti, ružni i pokvareni. Ipak, onima koji ne razumiju što je istinski sretan život činili su se upravo tada najljepšima i najblaženijima, jer su bili ispunjeni nepravednom željom za vlašću i moći. Zeus, bog bogova i vladar prema zakonu, vidio je da je taj nekoć pravedni rod zapao u loše stanje i odlučio ga kazniti kako bi ga ponovno doveo u red. Zato je okupio sve bogove u njihovom najsvetijem prebivalištu, koje se nalazi u središtu svega što nastaje, i kada ih je okupio, počeo im je govoriti: …

4. Što izravno proizlazi iz Platonova teksta

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Što Platon kaže

Vrijeme

Kritija navodi 9.000 godina prije vremena pripovjedača za rat između drevne Atene i Atlantide.

Položaj

Atlantida je smještena izvan Heraklovih stupova, pred ulazom u veliko more koje Platon razlikuje od mora unutar tjesnaca.

Veličina

Otok je opisan kao veći od Libije i Azije zajedno. To je Platonova formulacija i ne treba je automatski pretvarati u suvremenu kartografsku mjeru.

Politička organizacija

Postoji deset kraljevskih područja, povezanih zajedničkim pravilima, pri čemu najstarija loza Atlasa ima prvenstvo.

Glavni grad

Prijestolnica je organizirana oko središnje akropole i naizmjeničnih prstenova kopna i vode.

Gospodarstvo

Platon opisuje iznimno plodnu zemlju, šume, izvore, metale, životinje, voće i druge proizvode.

Infrastruktura

Posebno su istaknuti kanali, luke, mostovi, brodogradilišta, spremnici vode i navodnjavanje.

Vojska

Opis uključuje bojne kočije, hoplite, strijelce, praćkaše, kopljanike i velik broj brodova.

Moralni luk

U početku vlada vrlina i samokontrola; zatim slabi božanska narav, raste pohlepa za bogatstvom i moći, a Zeus odlučuje kazniti Atlantidu.

Sudbina

Timaej govori da Atlantida nestaje kroz potrese i poplavu u jednom teškom danu i noći.

Kritija, međutim, završava prije opisa same završne katastrofe.

5. Što nam Platon ne kaže

Platon ne daje suvremene koordinate Atlantide, ne navodi zemljopisnu širinu i dužinu, ne spominje Atlantidu pod današnjim nacionalnim ili geografskim imenima i ne opisuje tehnologiju koja bi odgovarala modernoj znanstvenoj fantastici. Ne govori o kristalima, električnoj energiji, letećim strojevima, izvanzemaljcima, izgubljenoj naprednoj znanosti ili bilo kojoj drugoj popularnoj modernoj nadogradnji. Takvi elementi mogu postati dio naše buduće književne rekonstrukcije, ali ne smiju biti predstavljeni kao Platonove riječi.

Također ne znamo završetak Kritije. Platon nam je sačuvao uvod u kaznu Atlantide, ali tekst se prekida upravo nakon Zeusova okupljanja bogova. To je jedna od najzanimljivijih „praznina“ za budući projekt, ali i jedna od točaka gdje moramo biti potpuno pošteni prema izvoru.

6. Osnova za budući istraživački i književni projekt

Ovaj prvi svezak može biti temelj cijele buduće knjige. Predlažem da ubuduće materijal dijelimo u tri jasno označene razine:

A — PLATON: prijevod i analiza onoga što stvarno stoji u Timaeju i Kritiji. Ovaj dio ne mijenjamo radi priče.

B — HIPOTEZE I TUMAČENJA: povijesne, geografske, geološke i filozofske mogućnosti. Svaka tvrdnja treba imati izvor ili jasno označenu razinu spekulacije.

C — NAŠA PRIČA: izmišljeni događaji, likovi, objašnjenja i rekonstrukcije koje se uklapaju u Platonov svijet. Tu možemo biti kreativni, ali ih nikada nećemo podvaliti kao povijesnu činjenicu ili Platonov tekst. Na taj način možemo kasnije istražiti, primjerice: što bi značilo da je otok doista bio „veći od Libije i Azije zajedno“; kako bi se mogao fizički izvesti sustav koncentričnih kanala; što bi značile mjere u stadijima i pletrima; kakva je mogla biti politička struktura deset kraljeva; kakva je bila trgovina; zašto Platon posebno ističe slonove, orihalk i izvore; kako razumjeti moralni pad; te kako se sve to može povezati s poznatim prirodnim katastrofama bez toga da se pretpostavka pretvori u činjenicu. Tek nakon toga možemo napraviti našu književnu rekonstrukciju: „Što se možda dogodilo između Platonovih redaka?“ To će biti zaseban sloj knjige.

7. Izvori i literatura

Primarni tekstovi i digitalne edicije:

Plato, Timaeus i Critias, grčki tekst prema standardnim izdanjima; Perseus Digital Library, Tufts University. Perseus pruža grčki tekst i klasične engleske prijevode te omogućuje provjeru odlomaka po Stephanusovoj paginaciji. John Burnet, Platonis Opera, Oxford Classical Text, 1902–1903 — standardna osnova za grčki tekst korišten u mnogim digitalnim izdanjima. Digitalni čitač Critije prikazuje grčki tekst prema Burnetu i engleski prijevod R. G. Buryja. Christopher Gill, Plato’s Atlantis Story: Text, Translation and Commentary, 2. izdanje, Liverpool University Press, 2017. Knjiga objedinjuje relevantne grčke tekstove Timaeja i Kritije, novi engleski prijevod, uvod, komentar i rječnik.

Sekundarna literatura:

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, „Plato’s Timaeus“ — koristan pregled strukture dijaloga i mjesta priče o Atlantidi u širem filozofskom okviru. Kathryn A. Morgan, „Designer History: Plato’s Atlantis Story and Fourth-Century Ideology“, Journal of Hellenic Studies — rasprava o političkom i historiografskom kontekstu priče. Thomas Kjeller Johansen, Plato’s Natural Philosophy — rasprava o statusu Atlantidine priče kao povijesti, fikcije i filozofskog primjera. Napomena za buduće izdanje: ovaj PDF je radna verzija 1.0. U sljedećim iteracijama možemo dodati grčki izvornik uz hrvatski prijevod, engleski prijevod, karte i sheme prema Platonovu opisu, tablicu svih mjera, kronologiju, pregled antičkih komentatora i zasebnu knjigu naše fikcionalne rekonstrukcije.

EGIPATSKA POZADINA — SAIS, NEIT I SJENA IZGUBLJENOG ZAPISA

Ovo poglavlje otvara vrata egipatskom svijetu iz kojega, prema Platonovu pripovijedanju, dolazi sjećanje na Atlantidu. Ne tvrdimo da smo pronašli egipatski izvornik Atlantide. Prikupljamo provjerljive podatke o Saisu, božici Neit, hramovima, svećenicima i načinu na koji su drevni narodi čuvali sjećanje na prošlost. Između tih tragova i Atlantide ostaje prostor nepoznatoga — a upravo ćemo taj prostor istraživati, ne prikrivajući ga.

1. Tri niti naše knjige

POVIJESNA NIT — stvarni natpisi, arheološki nalazi i tekstovi antičkih autora. Svaki navod mora imati provjerljiv izvor.

PLATONOVA NIT — ono što izričito stoji u Timaeju i Kritiji. Platonov tekst ostaje temelj i ne mijenja se kako bi odgovarao našoj rekonstrukciji.

AUTORSKA NIT — zamišljeni razgovori, prizori, izgubljeni zapisi i prijelazi između poznatih događaja. Taj sloj smije biti poetičan, ali mora biti prepoznatljiv kao slobodni autorski izričaj.

2. Sais — grad uz rub pamćenja

U Timaeju 21e Platon povezuje Sais s božicom koju Egipćani zovu Neit, a Grci poistovjećuju s Atenom. U njegovoj priči svećenik u Saisu govori Solonu o davnim događajima i o tome kako su se sjećanja različito sačuvala u Egiptu i Grčkoj. To je ono što Platon pripovijeda; nije nam sačuvan neovisan egipatski dokument koji potvrđuje njegovu priču o Atlantidi.

Za našu rekonstrukciju Sais može postati više od imena na stranici. Možemo istražiti njegovu vjersku ulogu, sveti prostor, svećenike i zapise. Zatim možemo zamisliti Solona kako ulazi u hram, sluša prevoditelja i pokušava razumjeti priču stariju od grčkih pjesama. Povijesna pozadina može biti utemeljena; sam prizor razgovora bit će naš.

3. Neit — božica iza imena

Neit je bila važna egipatska božica, a Sais njezino glavno kultno središte. Platonova usporedba Neit s Atenom može poslužiti kao most između dvaju religijskih svjetova. Ipak, sličnost božica ili njihova poistovjećivanja u grčko-egipatskom okruženju ne dokazuju da je priča o Atlantidi potekla iz egipatskog izvora.

4. Herodot i sveti prostor

U Povijesti 2.170–171 Herodot opisuje sveti prostor u Saisu, kamene obeliske i jezero omeđeno kamenom, a spominje i noćne obrede. Njegov opis može nam pomoći pri prikazu prostora i vjerske atmosfere. On ne potvrđuje Atlantidu, ali nam daje stvarni povijesni oslonac za egipatsku pozornicu naše priče.

5. Horkhebi i jezero

Objavljena istraživanja navode natpis povezan s Horkhebijevim kipom iz doba Amasisa, u kojem se govori o uređenju jezera povezanog s Neit i bogovima Saisa. To je vrijedan trag za razumijevanje svetog krajolika i organiziranih radova u egipatskom gradu. Prije nego što u završnu knjigu unesemo detaljan prijevod natpisa, potrebno je provjeriti izdanje, čitanje i datiranje u stručnoj literaturi.

6. Egipatske priče o poretku i kazni

Knjiga Nebeske krave, sačuvana u verzijama iz Novog kraljevstva, govori o odnosu ljudi i bogova te o božanskoj kazni. Možemo je usporediti s Platonovim moralnim lukom — od vrline prema oholosti i propasti — ali ne smijemo je nazvati izvorom Atlantide bez dokaza. U knjizi će biti predstavljena kao usporedna egipatska predaja, ne kao skriveno poglavlje Platonove priče.

7. Što ćemo nadograditi

Nadograđivat ćemo sloj po sloj. Prvo ćemo čitatelju pokazati ono što je povijesno potvrđeno. Zatim ćemo navesti što Platon govori. Tek nakon toga slijedi autorski prizor koji spaja podatke: svećenik u sjeni hrama, miris vode i kamena, pisar koji odmotava papirus, Solon koji pita, a stariji čovjek koji zastaje prije nego što izgovori ono što se prenosi generacijama. Taj prizor nije citat ni prijevod izvornog dokumenta. To je naša književna rekonstrukcija.

8. Ilustracija — zapis koji nismo pronašli

Sljedeća slika prikazuje zamišljeni egipatski papirus. Ona nije fotografija arheološkog predmeta, faksimil pronađenog rukopisa niti dokaz da je na egipatskom jeziku postojao tekst o Atlantidi. Znakovi su vizualni motiv, a ne prijevodiv tekst. Ako kasnije upotrijebimo stvarne hijeroglife s određenim značenjem, njihovo čitanje i povijesno razdoblje provjerit ćemo zasebno.

Ilustracija A. Zamišljeni egipatski papirus — slobodni autorski izričaj, a ne povijesni nalaz ili potvrđeni zapis o Atlantidi.

9. Oznake uz slike

A — stvarni predmet ili natpis: navodimo ustanovu, inventarni broj ili izdanje kad je dostupno. B — stručna rekonstrukcija: objašnjavamo na kojim se nalazima temelji. C — autorska ilustracija: jasno navodimo da prikazuje zamišljeni prizor, predmet ili rukopis. Vizualna uvjerljivost nikada sama po sebi ne znači povijesnu autentičnost.

10. Radni zaključak

Za sada nemamo identificiran i sačuvan egipatski tekst koji neovisno potvrđuje Platonovu Atlantidu. Imamo stvarne izvore o Saisu, Neit, svetim prostorima i egipatskim religijskim predajama. Oni mogu dati dubinu našem svijetu i pomoći nam izgraditi uvjerljiv narativ, ali poveznice s Atlantidom moraju ostati označene kao Platonova tvrdnja, hipoteza ili autorska fikcija.

Izvori za daljnju provjeru

Platon, Timaej 21e i Kritija 113a–e; grčki tekst i prijevodi prema standardnim izdanjima i Perseus Digital Library.

Herodot, Povijest 2.170–171 — opis Saisa i njegova svetog prostora.

Horkhebi — natpis povezan s uređenjem svetog jezera u Saisu; potrebno je provjeriti primarno izdanje i stručno čitanje prije objave prijevoda.

Knjiga Nebeske krave — egipatski religijski tekst iz tradicije Novog kraljevstva; koristiti kao usporedni tekst, ne kao dokaz podrijetla Atlantide.

Dekret iz Naukratisa povezan s Nektanebom I. — mogući izvor za odnos hramskog kulta, trgovine i prihoda; točno čitanje i datiranje treba potvrditi u stručnoj ediciji.

Ilustracija A. Zamišljeni egipatski papirus — slobodni autorski izričaj, a ne povijesni nalaz ili potvrđeni zapis o Atlantidi.

II. IZVORNI PODACI I NJIHOVA ANALIZA

4. Atlantida kao golemi otok

IZVOR: Atlantida je otok izvan Heraklovih stupova i veća je od Libije i Azije zajedno.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Ne određujemo suvremeni položaj, obalu ni površinu u km². Unutarnji opis nije cijeli otok.

5. Posejdon, Kleito i deset sinova

IZVOR: Posejdon i Kleito imaju deset sinova u pet parova blizanaca. Atlas je najstariji i dobiva najveći i najbolji dio.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Obiteljsko stablo: Posejdon + Kleito → Atlas–Gadeir; Ampheres–Evaemon; Mneseus–Autochthon; Elasippus–Mestor; Azaes–Diaprepes. Model: 1 Atlasovo + 9 ostalih kraljevstava.

6. Atlasovo kraljevstvo

IZVOR: Atlasu pripada najveći i najbolji dio i on ima prvenstvo među kraljevima.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Atlasovo kraljevstvo je središnje i najveće kraljevstvo modela; u njemu su ravnica, planinski kompleks, vodni sustav i metropola.

7. Velika ravnica

IZVOR: Ravnica je približno 3000 × 2000 stadija, plodna, izdužena, okrenuta prema jugu i zaštićena od sjevernih vjetrova.

IZVEDENO: 2 × (3000 + 2000) = 10.000 stadija, što odgovara duljini kanala oko ravnice.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Prikazujemo je kao veliko središnje poljoprivredno područje; ne tvrdimo da je savršeni pravokutnik.

8. Planinski kompleks

IZVOR: Planine okružuju ravnicu; opisani su izvori, rijeke, jezera, šume, livade i naselja.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Planinski pojas je unutarnji kompleks, a ne rub cijele Atlantide. Iza njega ostavljamo prostor za nizine, brežuljke, druge planine i devet kraljevstava.

9. Kraljevska metropola

IZVOR: Središnji otok ima 5 stadija promjera; oko njega su izmjenični vodeni i kopneni prstenovi širine 1, 2, 2, 3 i 3 stadija.

IZVEDENO: Ukupni promjer metropole = 27 stadija.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Koncentrična struktura pripada samo Atlasovoj metropoli.

10. Kanali i vodni sustav

IZVOR: Glavni kanal od mora: 50 stadija, 3 plethra širok, 100 stopa dubok. Kanal oko ravnice: 10.000 stadija, 1 stadion širok, 1 plethron dubok. Unutarnji kanali: 100 stopa široki i 100 stadija razmaknuti.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Na karti ih prikazujemo kao glavne prometne i hidrološke osi.

11. Poljoprivredni sustav

IZVOR: Platon opisuje navodnjavanje, kišnicu, vodu iz planina, višestruke žetve i transport proizvoda.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Ravnica je gospodarsko srce Atlasova kraljevstva.

12. Podjela ravnice

IZVOR: Navodi se 60.000 zemljišnih jedinica, svaka 10 × 10 stadija.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Na karti se koristi reprezentativna mreža, ne svih 60.000 pojedinačno.

13. Devet ostalih kraljevstava

IZVOR: Svaki kralj vlada svojim dijelom zemlje i svojim gradom.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Devet ostalih područja prikazujemo kao klasična kraljevstva: vlastiti glavni grad, sela, poljoprivreda, prirodna područja i prometne veze. Bez koncentričnih gradova po uzoru na Atlasovu metropolu.

14. Vanjski dijelovi Atlantide

IZVOR: Platon ne daje potpunu kartu cijelog otoka.

REKONSTRUKCIJA: Vanjski prostor ostaje dovoljno velik za nizine, brežuljke, planine, šume, rijeke, jezera, gradove i obalu; točan raspored ostaje otvoren.

III. MJERE I PROSTOR

Radni odnosi: 1 stadion = 600 stopa; 1 plethron = 100 stopa; 1 stadion = 6 plethra.

Model A — 1 stadion ≈ 177,6 m — glavni radni model

Model B — 1 stadion ≈ 184,9 m — kontrolni model

Model C — 1 stadion ≈ 192,3 m — kontrolni model

Metričke vrijednosti nisu Platonov izvorni podatak. U knjizi izvorna mjera ostaje primarna.

IV. PROSTORNA REKONSTRUKCIJA — OD UNUTRA PREMA VAN

Metropola → velika ravnica → planinski kompleks → Atlasovo kraljevstvo → devet klasičnih kraljevstava → širi prostor golemog otoka → obala.

Pravila modela

  • Atlasovo kraljevstvo je najveće i najbolje te čini središnji teritorijalni kompleks.
  • Koncentrična metropola postoji samo u Atlasovu kraljevstvu.
  • Devet ostalih kraljevstava su klasične političko-geografske cjeline.
  • Ako se tekst i karta sukobe, mijenja se karta.

V. KARTE I ILUSTRACIJE

Karta 1 — Atlasovo kraljevstvo.

Karta 2 — Velika ravnica i planinski kompleks.

Glavna karta — Atlantida, radna rekonstrukcija 1.2.

VI. ŠTO PLATON NE KAŽE

  • Ne daje suvremene koordinate ni položaj na današnjoj karti.
  • Ne daje točan oblik cijele obale.
  • Ne daje granice deset kraljevstava.
  • Ne daje točan položaj gradova devet ostalih kraljeva.
  • Ne kaže da je planinski pojas rub cijele Atlantide.
  • Ne daje sigurnu metričku vrijednost stadiona.
  • Ne daje završetak Kritije nakon Zeusova okupljanja.
  • Ne govori o modernim elementima poput kristala, električne energije ili izvanzemaljaca.

VII. HIPOTEZE I TUMAČENJA

Ovaj sloj ostaje odvojen od Platonova izvornika. Povijesne, geografske, geološke i filozofske hipoteze moraju imati izvor i oznaku razine sigurnosti.

VIII. NAŠA KASNIJA KNJIŽEVNA REKONSTRUKCIJA

Ovdje se tek kasnije mogu dodavati izmišljeni događaji, likovi i objašnjenja. Ništa iz ovog sloja ne smije biti predstavljeno kao Platonova riječ ili povijesna činjenica.

IX. IZVORI I LITERATURA — RADNA BIBLIOGRAFIJA

  • Plato, Timaeus i Critias — grčki tekst i Stephanusova paginacija.
  • John Burnet, Platonis Opera, Oxford Classical Text.
  • Christopher Gill, Plato’s Atlantis Story: Text, Translation and Commentary, 2. izd., Liverpool University Press, 2017.
  • Herodot, Historije — kontrola antičke metrologije.
  • Ksenofont, Anabaza i Hellenica — uporaba stadija i plethra.
  • Tukidid — dodatna kontrola uporabe antičkih mjera.
  • Strabon, Geographica — kasnija kontrola odnosa mjernih jedinica.

X. ZAVRŠNO PRAVILO PROJEKTA

Platonov tekst je temelj. Ne smještamo Atlantidu u sadašnju geografiju. Gradimo je od unutrašnjosti prema van. Izvor, izvedeno, tumačenje i rekonstrukcija moraju ostati jasno odvojeni.

Karta mora slijediti tekst, a ne tekst kartu.

NAPOMENE O IZVORIMA I METODI

  • Provjeriti svaki kartografski podatak prema grčkom tekstu i dodati Stephanusovu oznaku.
  • Završiti metrologijski dosje.
  • Napraviti čistu geometrijsku kartu bez dekorativnih pretpostavki.
  • Razraditi devet klasičnih kraljevstava bez koncentričnih gradova.
  • Napraviti zasebne karte Atlasova kraljevstva, ravnice, metropole i deset kraljevstava.
  • Tek nakon osnovne rekonstrukcije zasebno obrađivati moguće suvremene lokacije.

Autor: Zoran Maričić aka Dag Dagoberovic

Review

Sjedim i razmišljam od kuda početi osvrt na tekstove koji su prethodili Lemuria: Paradise Found and Lost I, Lemuria: Paradise Found and Lost II, Exploring the Wonders of Ancient Egypt I, Exploring the Wonders of Ancient Egypt II i Mohenjo Daro.

Razmišljam kako su oni uspjeli živjeti u zajedničkom životu sa prirodom oko sebe te kako su se znali uklopiti u nju te podići svoju duhovnu razinu na viši nivo te gledati ljude oko sebe u miru te pomažući si međusobno. Koji recept su stari narodi upotrebljavali da su mogli se međusobno trpjeti bez nesuglasica te na koji način su uspjeli graditi nivo svijesti i znanja a da mi danas to ne možemo uspjeti?

Nekako proizlazi ta crta od onih ranijih tekstova o piramidama gdje su Anasaziji, Maje uz Atlantiđane ili Lemurijce uspjeli graditi Platonovu utopiju u stvarnosti a sve zbog toga što nisu bili opterećeni materijalnim stvarima i međusobnim jalom. Svakodnevno možemo pogledati oko sebe i vidjeti kako je netko jalan na naš način življenja te onoga što posjedujemo koje smo nekako svojim radom ili znanjem uspjeli napraviti a zbog čega smo se morali nečega tada odreći. Nitko ne gleda i ne razmišlja o odricanju i gubitku onog dijela života koji smo mogli drugačije provesti te na taj način odabrati možda bolji i jednostavniji put, čini mi se da osim razvoja znanosti i duhovne obnove u Atlantidi, Lemuriji ali i starom Egiptu nije bilo potrebno ništa drugo te su svi pogledi bili upućeni na razvoj društva u cjelini te njegov prosperitet na sasvim drugačijem nivou.

Ako se danas okrenemo dostignućima koje imamo ona uopće nemaju u sebi prosperitet društva u cjelini nego je sve okrenuto prema pojedincu dok je duhovna strana ravna nuli jer odlazak u crkvu predstavlja pokazivanje svog statusnog simbola a ne vjere. Ono malo ljudi koji istinski gradi svoju duhovnost i obraćanje Bogu čini zbog osjećaja ugode i mira sa samim sobom u sjeni tako nečega gubi smisao a pogotovo ako i oni koji stalno navješćuju da su oko nas grijesi društva ili grijesi struktura dosta veliki a sami se ne drže istoga o čemu pričaju. Vidjeli smo da u kratko vrijeme Crkva kao hram duhovne obnove se našla u velikim skandalima u kojima ta ista duhovnost je izgubila smisao te u nekih vjernika pobudila sumnju da oni koji se predstavljaju kao sluge Božije uopće to smiju i zavrijeđuju biti.

Ratovi u našem okruženju koji izjedaju ljudskost te na taj način osiromašuju cijele regije zbog čega dolazimo do porazne činjenice da glad u svijetu je najveća od postanka čovječanstva a znamo i imamo načina za istu proizvoditi. Postavlja se pitanje: – Kakvi nas to bešćutni ljudi okružuju te kakve to mi vođe imamo kada mogu okrenuti na tako nešto glavu na drugu stranu?

Da li smo svojim načinom života u moderniziranom društvu koje je daleko od bilo kakve Platonove ili Marxove utopije ostvarili najavu početka kataklizme koja će jednog dana doći i uništiti loše pore društva kao što se to dogodilo sa Sodomom i Gomorom ili sa biblijskim potopom očistiti te ostaviti samo one koji su pozvani da predstavljaju ljudski rod jer su u duši čisti i bez grijeha te da li i te priče nisu imale pozadinu od strane posjetitelja iz svemira tj. naših genetskih darovatelja koji su se naljutili na način kojim smo počeli živjeti te što smo tada činili i tako na drastičan način pokušali očistiti društvo od grijeha materijalizma i bezduhovnosti.

Kako god iz svega ovoga što smo mogli pročitati ni posjetitelji sa Plejada ili bilo gdje drugdje iz svemira nam više ne mogu pomoći te nam pokazati ispravniji put osim da nas vrate u kameno doba kad je zajedništvo bilo jedini i najispravniji put preživljavanja i opstanka čovječanstva kroz očuvanje obitelji te izgrađivanje nje kroz zajednički život sa okolinom ali i izgrađivanju njene duhovnosti.

Možda moj pogled na sadašnjost nije ispravan i možda on vidi nešto sasvim drugo te ne nalazi ništa pozitivno no ipak oni koji redovito čitaju a i gledaju moje postove od 2005 pa do danas znaju da to nije tako te da moj pogled je uvijek upućen i u budućnost te nadu u boljitak koji će uzrokovat promjene na bolje.

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Sitting and think of where to start reference to the texts that have preceded Lemuria: Paradise Found and Lost I, Lemuria: Paradise Found and Lost II, Exploring the Wonders of Ancient Egypt I, Exploring the Wonders of Ancient Egypt II i Mohenjo Daro.

Think how they managed to live in shared life with the nature around them and how they knew in her nest and raise their spiritual level to a higher level and watch people around you in peace and helping each. What are the old recipe used nations that are able to tolerate each other and without disagreement on how they managed to build a level of awareness and knowledge and that to me today that we can not succeed?

Somehow this line comes from those of earlier texts on the pyramids where Anasazi, Maja with Atlantidian or Lemurian managed to build Platons utopia in reality and all because they were not burdened financial matters and mutual envy. Every day we can look around and see how someone envyed to our way of life and of what we own that somehow their work or knowledge managed to create a reason we had to give up something then. No one sees and does not think about waiver and the loss of the life that we could otherwise spend so that you may choose a better and simpler way, seems to me that except for the development of science and spiritual renewal in Atlantidian, but Lemurian old and Egypt was not necessary nothing else, and all views were referred to the development of society as a whole and its prosperity on an entirely different level.

If today turn achievements that we have it in general do not in themselves prosperity of society as a whole, but everything is facing the individual while the spiritual side of a flat zero for the departure of a church shows their status and not faith. Those few people who truly build their spirituality and makes reference to God because of a sense of comfort and peace with themselves in the shadow of something so lost a sense especially if those who constantly proclaim that they are around us or the sins of society sins structure large enough but you can not keep the same thing talking. We have seen that in a short time as the temple of the Church of spiritual renewal is found in large scandals in which the same spirituality has lost meaning, and in some believers actuate doubt that those who are represented as Gods servants in general to laugh and be deserved.

Wars in our environment, which eaten Humanity so that the whole region impoverish why there slashing the fact that hunger in the world, is the largest of the evolution of humanity and we know we have a ways to produce the same. The question is: – What callous us to people and surrounded by what to me when we have the leaders can turn on something so head to the other side?

Whether we are their way of life in modernised society that is far from any Platons or Marx utopia made the announcement early cataclysm that will one day come and destroy the bad pores of society as occurred with Sodom and Gomorrah or with biblical deluge cleanse and leave only those who were invited to represent the human race because they are the soul clean and free of sin and whether these stories and not have background of visitors from outer space that is our genetic donators who offened in a manner that we began to live and what we did then, and so a drastic way of trying to cleanse the society from the sins of materialism and without spirituality.

However out of all this that we are able to read or visitors with constellations or anywhere else in the universe we no longer can help us and show proprieted way except that we return to the Stone Age when the fellowship any the best and the only way of survival and the survival of humanity through the preservation Family these build it through cohabitation but with the environment and build its spirituality.

Maybe my view at present is not correct and maybe he sees something completely different and there is not anything positive but those who regularly watch and read my posts from 2005 until today know that this is not so and that my view is always made in the future and hope the better that will cause changes for the better.

~ following the title is: Šumska Balada I, 23.06.2008 ~

Exploring The Wonders of Atlantis II

LIFE IN ATLANTIS

There were many wonderful things about life in Atlantis. It was beautiful and for hundreds of thousands of years it was harmonious. Atlanteans didn’t really marry as you think of marriage today. Atlanteans could live for a thousand years if they chose or they could live for ten years. They lived for as long that they chose to experience life in the particular set of circumstances they had chosen. It wasn’t the same as your structure today. Many times there would be a union formed by a couple for a while and then one would choose to leave. There would then be a union with another soul. Unions seldom dissolved because of disharmony. When there was disharmony, it was always taken before a tribunal unit of philosophers and usually the disharmony was resolved. Seldom was there anything that was not resolved among the populace. It was a time of great peace. This Golden Age of Atlantis was a time in your distant memory of peace that you vaguely remember. The physical birth of children were unusual in Atlantis because the populace had come to understand how to leave their bodies and come again as they chose. But when children were born in Atlantis it was a great occasion. It was joyous. When a soul chose to be physically born as a baby in Atlantis, it was usually their first earthly incarnation. The parents were carefully chosen that their energy was totally compatible with the new soul entering its earthly existence. They were nurtured not only by the parents, they were nurtured by the whole community. All the souls in Atlantis taught, loved and nurtured this new soul as it grew. They helped them to understand Earth and their physical existence on this planet.

An animal kingdom existed in Atlantis. All animals lived in harmony. There was not any devouring of life to sustain life in Atlantis in this time of peace. The animals that came into this community were so nurtured by the energy of the love, divinity and the crystalline power that their very nature was changed. If the animal was of a carnivorous nature they were no longer carnivorous once they were in Atlantis. Yes, it was a wonderful golden age of peace.

The philosophers continually advanced in their philosophical understanding. They extended their thought processes beyond life on this planet as they came to understand life in all of the galaxy. They had much more knowledge of your solar system than you have today. They understood much more about the universe then you understand today. They shared this understanding of the vastness and the beauty of life with all the people.

What did you eat in Atlantis? You never considered eating meat in Atlantis. You did consume fruits, vegetables and nuts. Many of you today have that inward desire and it’s usually at a time when you’re at a higher spiritual awakening that you do not really want to devour meat. You do not choose to intake that vibration. It has little to do with the fact of taking the life. We’re talking about taking the vibration into your vibration.

Atlanteans had a vast knowledge and understanding of energy. They knew how to create from raw energy. This is why they could create art with light and why the art form would change as the thoughts of the soul observing the art changed. Energy was something they thoroughly understood. Today you have not even begun to uncover in your scientific community nor your technology what the Atlanteans understood about energy. Atlanteans had the ability to form from pure raw energy whatever was needed to sustain their existence.

When they ate, it wasn’t for nourishment. It wasn’t to sustain life. There was a vibration to every fruit, vegetable and flower, for Atlanteans did consume flowers as well. They primarily consumed not only for the enjoyment of the taste but they consumed for the vibration taken into their body. Many times their body’s energy was balanced by this consumption as they had the knowledge of the various vibrations.

So eating had more to do with energy balance then it did because they were hungry or than to sustain life. Never, never would they have considered consuming anything other than plant life into their own vibration. Why? Because those vibrations were not in harmony with the vibration of their own body. They knew it would change the vibration of their body to the point that they would then have confusion. We would say to you, Atlanteans were very careful that whatever they consumed was of a vibration that was in harmony with their particular vibration. They would actually meld with the vibration before they consumed it. And if that was not comfortable then they would bless that vibration but they would not consume it within themselves.

INTERGALACTIC UNDERSTANDING

Atlantis was vast in size. While the population of the community was very small for a time, it became quite an intergalactic population. That is interesting for if you remember, we told you the Healing Temple became very intergalactic. It was known to be “the healing place” within the solar system. This brought quite an intergalactic population and a need to understand the different cultures and varying energies. Earth was the place where souls intermingled gaining greater understanding of each other. Atlantis gave a great opportunity that had not been available before. Not only was Atlantis advanced as far as its culture was concerned but it also had a very peaceful environment that allowed acceptance. There was a great acceptance of all life. There was very little judgment at that time of who was better or who was right. All things were pretty much accepted just the way they were.

UNDERSTANDING VIBRATIONAL FORM

Let’s talk about the transportation systems in Atlantis. Much of how the populace was moved from one point to the other took place in crystal chambers. When they entered these crystal chambers their molecules were transferred from one crystal chamber to another crystal chamber. There were no transportation systems, as we know them today. There was intergalactic space travel. While there was physical spacecraft, often the travel was by energy transference. Remember that Atlanteans were the masters of energy. They understood energy as it has never been understood on this planet before or since.

When you understand how to use energy, when you understand the vibrational form of energy, you are totally unlimited. There is nothing you cannot achieve once you understand energy and the vibrational form of energy. There is not anything you cannot create. Atlantis became the Mecca of that understanding. Atlanteans became superior in their knowledge to those beings that had established Atlantis. Those that founded Atlantis left behind enough knowledge that the great human resourcefulness of the human soul, was able to evolve very quickly. When humanity is not diversifying your energies with conflict, you have no idea of how superior your ability of creativity is nor how far reaching your possibilities. We would say to you, “You have not been willing to give up your own inner conflict let alone the conflict in your world and therefore you are not aware of your own greatness.” Atlanteans did not experience conflict in their Golden Age they came to be masters at understanding and using energy. Others no longer came from distant galaxies to help the Atlanteans, but rather they came to learn from this great culture. The Atlanteans developed the technology that brought beings from all through the galaxy to Atlantis. Many had not developed the technology to travel to Earth. The Atlanteans had the technology to bring them here. Atlanteans became the superior masters of their time and gods of the universe, so to speak. They were known for open-armed embracement of all things. They became known for understanding of life. They were also known for their beautiful Healing Temple. We do not have the words to convey to you the beauty, the power and the simplicity of the Atlantean Healing Temple.

THE BEGINNING OF DISHARMONY

Sadly the time came when the Atlanteans began to use their knowledge of energy in ways that became self-serving to a few. This self-serving use of energy sowed seeds of disharmony that began to grow. Discord arose as to the proper usage of creative energy and so did the lines of division between the two sides of the river. The Philosophers, Healers and Communicators on the left bank and the Scientists and Technology community on the right bank began a struggle for power. The Master had long ago vacated the Holy Temple in the center of the Great River of Life.

The struggle for power that lasted for several millenium finally found the power falling into the technological and scientific community. They were very knowledgeable in manipulating energy for their own purposes. As the power fell into their hands, more and more they created things that were not for the benefit of all, but for the benefit of a few. Those in power felt as though that there were cultural differences between different beings, those they perceived to be of different levels of understanding. They felt they were superior to those that followed the philosophies. The scientific and technological side of the river felt others were inferior or of a lower class. And if they were of a lower class then they could not have the understanding or the ability to govern Atlantis.

PHILOSOPHERS ARE ISOLATED

The philosophers were the first to be attacked by those on the “right” bank of the river. The philosophers were isolated into one area of Atlantis. You say, “How could this happen?” The scientific and technology leaders gathered the philosophers together for the pretense of a joint meeting on Atlantean affairs. The scientific and technology leaders then placed an energy field around the philosophers. They could not go beyond the energy field that surrounded them, nor could others enter into the energy field. While all was provided for the philosopher’s existence they no longer had an influence on the culture.

MISUSE OF POWER

Then the scientific and technology leaders began to divide Atlantis into sectors. They began to re-locate different cultures in isolated pockets of communities. Sectors were developed. Energy fields were placed around these sectors of division to eliminate cross-culture communication.

Those leaders that evolved into the control of the government began to use their knowledge of energy; their knowledge of creation in a way that they felt would create what had never been created before. They became intoxicated with the prospect of creation. Realize that when you know how to manipulate energy into a vibrational form creation is not difficult. There was no limitation or thought of the common good as they built upon the creation of technology.

There was a huge, huge crystal obelisk erected that sent out energy pulses that kept everything subdued. The population was not unhappy. Nobody wanted to rebel. It was like the energies just said, “You’re happy,” and that was accepted by the population. There was a total control over the population. What you must understand is that this was less then ten per cent of the population. In fact actually it was about 8.9 per cent of the population. The group on the right bank of the river, the scientist and technologist group began to take control of Atlantis, they became more and more intoxicated with their own power of creativity.

THE END OF ATLANTIS

It was the third generation of the isolation of the population of Atlantis or about three or four thousand years in your time frame when Atlantis and this once beautiful culture began to collapse. At that time, the vibration of energy was so heavy that the energy form of the mass of land could not sustain the heaviness of the vibrational energy that was being created. The landmass began to fall apart. Divisions in the land occurred creating splits and forming new continents. There were eruptions in the land for the land itself was not strong enough of a vibrational creation to sustain what was taking place.

The beautiful Healing Temple no longer was in service as Science had replaced the Healers. Others of the intergalactic community no longer visited the once beautiful Atlantis. As Atlantis fell rapidly into decay, the Atlanteans sent out a cry for help. The very people who were responsible for the destruction taking place, by what they believed was their creative right, sent out a cry. And they said, “We have done a great wrong. What can save the culture that was once here?” But at that point nothing could.

At the time of Atlantis’ demise, Atlantis was void of spirituality and that was the saddest part of all. It was not what had happened scientifically, not even what technology had brought about; not even the obelisk that subdued the people with the vibration that it sent out, not even the energy fields that separated them. The saddest part was the void of spirituality.

Now, as in all things, there are always survivors. In Atlantis there were a few survivors. At the end all of the energy fields ceased to exist. There was no more control of these energy fields nor did those that set them up desire to control them. For they truly cried out in agony over what they realized they had created. There are always survivors and the souls that survived took the story of Atlantis to a distant land. In that distant land they told them of what they remembered. However it was when they were put into a state of suspended animation that the true story of Atlantis and its greatness came forth. Your legends of Atlantis came from the handful of survivors who told a story of the wondrous Atlantis and how their land was destroyed. There was a great love for the populace of this planet. Those very beings that had created Atlantis took a handful of souls who were the most pure in spirit, who were the least encased in their own fears and transported them from that point of consciousness and placed them in a distant land. This land has become known as ancient Egypt.

THE PROMISE

There are many myths around Atlantis, many myths because of Atlantis, for it was a great, great time on your planet. It was zenith of understanding of humanities greatness. A promise was given to Atlantis by the Master that once resided in the Holy Temple in the middle of the Great River. The promise stated when humanities consciousness once again rises to the mass consciousness level that was the consciousness of Atlantis at the height of its Golden Age, again you shall know the beauty and the peace of Atlantis. Those souls were told at that time they would be the ones with the greatest responsibility to restore what was once the beauty of the Golden Age of Atlantis on your planet.

DID YOU LIVE IN ATLANTIS?

If you have a great interest in Atlantis then you’ve been there. If a great desire to know more about Atlantis haunts you then you’ve been there. If you feel a great responsibility to humanity, your soul may feel you have an unpaid debt to humanity for your time lived in Atlantis. You may have incarnated to help the restoration process that is taking place. If you at times feel confused or searching for direction in life, being uncertain, then I would say you probably lived in Atlantis sometime during that time when many souls were subdued. It was a very sad time. Atlanteans are the ones most likely to have contact with intergalactic beings. If you feel connected somehow to intergalactic beings, intergalactic travel then you probably lived during that time.

ATLANTIS RISING

Is Atlantis rising? Yes but it’s not as a physical land mass that’s going to rise. It’s a state of consciousness. Your existence is only because you have a point of consciousness right here, right now.

Atlantis is a point of consciousness. You could relive Atlantis today if you chose because time is an illusion. What we think you’re going to do is to reconstruct the Golden Age of Atlantis but do it better. Maybe you will come to a clearer understanding of the greatness and the beauty of who you are. Every time you meditate, every time you send light, every time you pray, every time you love without condition you are bringing back that point of consciousness you knew in the Golden Age of Atlantis into your mass consciousness.

Q: Talking earlier about the animals, if the animals had been carnivorous when they came into the city, it all changed and they were no longer carnivorous. Would the same thing happen if a traveler had come from a different part of the planet or a long ways away from Atlantis, as they approached Atlantis if they had been a person who was used to doing physical harm, if they approached the vibration of Atlantis would that have changed them or would it have been too great and they would have been repelled?

A: Let us explain what happened. In this great temple of healing any new individual, any new soul, let me put it that way because it just wasn’t from your planet, that entered into Atlantis. They were immediately taken to the Temple of Healing where they were given that time of restoration. As far as the animals were concerned they have a much simpler innate desire and understanding of the oneness of life and as the animals entered into…and they didn’t come into the inner city, …but as they came into the ranges of that energy that Atlantis sent forth, they had no need. They, too, had no need for destruction or killing or devouring for their vibration, too, began to change. Now many animals did not come. There were not a lot of animals at that time. Because many animals their nature was not that of the same as that of the Alternation nature. But it was a vibrational, how can I say it. Have you ever walked into a place that you felt such peace? Maybe it was a building; maybe it was a place in nature. But when you walked into that place of such peace, maybe you were in turmoil; maybe you had been hurt; maybe you were angry, but when you walked into that place of peace it’s like something just floods over you that transforms all of that hurt and pain and you feel at oneness and wholeness and if you’ve ever experienced that multiply that many times over and that’s what it would have been like to walk into the energy of Atlantis.

Q: Are the pyramids of Egypt and South America, Mexico a result of the technology of Atlantis?

A: They are. They certainly are. Most of anything that you have is a result of Atlantis. And we didn’t really address that because we felt like perhaps many times that has already been talked about. But the pyramids were a form of focusing energy in the physical. It was a very primitive form in Atlantis. It was one of the earlier forms in dealing with energy. But it was learned to focus energy with the pyramids. And as they did that and as those went out, that technology went with them or that understanding, I should say. And yes, they did evolve from that time, but they were a very early, primitive form of working with energy. Compared to where Atlantis went.

Q: I had always understood that Lemuria preceded Atlantis and it seemed like you indicated that it came after Atlantis.

A: No. We didn’t mean to say that. And we’ll talk about that the next time. Lemuria was older then Atlantis. Lemuria is a whole different culture, a whole different…Lemurians actually attempted to help the Atlanteans. But the Atlanteans did not understand the Lemurians. And therefore there was little they could do to help. But there was certainly some interaction between the two. And we will talk about that after we talk about Lemuria, we will talk about what happened between the two and the time before either existed. But, no, we did not mean to say that if that’s the impression we gave you.

Q: Do the Egyptian Mystery Schools, the Tibetan spiritual tradition, and the Hawaiian Huna spiritual tradition all have roots in Atlantis?

A: Not really. They actually have more roots in Lemuria. The Lemurians attempted to teach the ….now remember the Atlanteans had a spiritual time, so we’re not trying to say the Atlanteans were never spiritual, but the Atlanteans had more of a..they were more interested in how it works then enjoying it working except for the philosophers. And so there’s an intermingling that takes place that you really can’t separate down line but the deep understanding of the simplicity and as you would say the mystery schools and the understanding of the very basic nature of spirituality was more Lemurian then it was Atlanteans.

Q: How do we understand our roots personally?

A: Well, your soul is eternal. It has always existed, shall always exist and Atlantis is right now. Now how can you understand that. It’s very difficult for the mind to understand the absence of time. You really have no roots. You have a focused point of consciousness and whatever that focus of consciousness is, is what you are choosing to experience at this particular given point of time. As time continues to collapse, you’re going to have a greater awareness of your experiences without time, in the absence of time. And that might be when you say ‘how do you understand your roots?’ You may come to understand a greater part of your soul history at that time. And you know what we really trust will happen? Is that you’re going to see the beauty of it. Don’t judge yourselves. Don’t say ‘wow, we really blew that.’ No you didn’t. No. That was an experience that added to God. It was an experience that added to the dimension of your soul. So as you begin to become more aware of things, look at the vastness of the possibilities of who you are. Don’t get caught in blame or guilt. Don’t feel like I could have done it better. What is better. Is that a society standard? And who is society and is that society as you know it in 1998 or society as you knew it in 1998 BC? Don’t do that to yourselves. The more you begin to awaken your consciousness, the more possibilities you have of who you are, the more you expand in your awareness. You have more choices. But if you get meshed down in guilt and blame…there are souls that become so overwhelmed by their perception of failure whatever that may be on their part that the heaviness of that vibration, they’ll either create something to take them off of this planet in the form of a disease or an accident because they feel like I just can’t do this. I have done it so badly. And we want to say to all of those souls: no, you didn’t. No, you didn’t. You just chose an experience. That same experience may be ten thousand years ago it would have been the epitome of the greatness of who you are. So don’t beat yourselves up. That’s the important message we want to give. Honor. Honor all that you are. Honor anything that you’ve been in the past and anything you’ll be in the future. See that greatness of who you are. There is no other soul like you. And that in itself is the miracle of creation. Any other question?

Q: Salem when you spoke of the golden time of Atlantis, and you spoke about the animal kingdom that was interacting with Atlantis. What we know as dolphins, were they interacting with the Atlanteans then and if they were what was their relationship?

A: Actually, when you speak of Atlantis itself, we are speaking of a rather isolated area of experience on your planet. Large but isolated. And when you speak of the community of the life that existed within your seas, there was a lot of division and separation at that time. Only because there didn’t seem to be a communicative process that was established. This allowed actually the purity of the life that was in the seas to remain fairly pure as all of the things began to fall apart in Atlantis. And that probably was a blessing. Now the dolphins, you have to realize, as beings came to this planet, to understand this planet, they took life forms of many kinds. They did not take a human body as you know it necessarily immediately. And so there was much expression of spirituality in many forms of life but they did not necessarily interact.

Q: You were talking about the destruction of Atlantis. You know, you hear that it was destroyed by an atomic bomb, but it is just your focus of consciousness from it or what actually happened? Was the obelisk with the energy going out to control people just stop controlling them and they just wandered and spread all over Earth? Is that how the people did it?

A: No. You’ve got to put Atlantis…you’ve got to think of Atlantis as a vibrational form that humanity understood energy much differently then you understand it today. And as the energy, just much the same as let us say energy creates a rock, and you place the rock in a bucket of water and it’s going to go to the bottom because the vibration of that rock is a heavier energy mass then the vibration of the water. As the energies of all of the heaviness that went forth between the obelisk that was controlling the people, between the creations that took place, the heaviness became too heavy for the land masses to sustain. The whole structure began to tear apart and sink because of the energy that was there much as the rock in water. It was not an atomic blast in Atlantis. That would have been primitive. That would have been extremely primitive in Atlantis. We’re talking the understanding of energy and matter and things that your physicists and scientists are only beginning to barely open the door to. They don’t have a clue as to how it was understood at that time. So you’re not talking so much of a blast that destroyed or even a natural, even though it became sort of what you might call a nature disaster, but it was just a heaviness. The vibration form of energy was too heavy to sustain the landmasses.

Q: Had it sunk into the Earth?

A: Well, it really just sunk into the oceans. It sunk into anything that was around it. It just sunk. Atlantis was really ….it was on the very edge of a landmass to begin with. On the very edge of a landmass. You say California is going to sink. Think of it in that kind of a manner. That Atlantis itself was just too heavy to sustain. And we want to talk about that for a moment. You’ve got to remember your earth structure didn’t look like it does now. So it’s hard for you to visualize how Atlantis was because it wasn’t how it is now. First of all you had a great amount of crystal. Great amount of crystal that was in this area. That crystal was a high-energy form. Extremely high energy. It had a very high collective consciousness to it. And as it began to be overpowered by the reforming of vibration, it shattered. Some of it actually disintegrated. Just disintegrated.

Q: Can you find artifacts around now? Is there anything left?

A: I would doubt that you’re going to find anything of Atlantis. Because I do not think that the energy matter that sustained the vibration that sustained it, I do not believe that you’re going to find a physical manifestation. Now, what you find is a powerful energy vortex. Powerful energy vortex but it’s a vortex of confusion. Because you had two collisions of thoughts processes and it’s a great confusion. Great confusion.

Q: What about the Bermuda Triangle? I had heard was a part of something that was from Atlantis that’s under the water that’s still going.

A: You have vortexes of confusion. You have vortexes of confusion that are on your …and that’s what they are…vortexes of confusion where two energy forms have collided. Two thought forms, two vibrational forms and that is what takes place. And that is one of them. I would not necessarily say that that’s necessarily just Atlantis but there has been a tremendous …there was an intergalactic war that took place at that particular …there’s so much ancient history here on your planet that we’re going to talk about before Atlantis and Lemuria and really that is more of a result of the ancient intergalactic war. It was a warfare for domination of your planet that nobody won. Nobody won.

Q: The Bermuda Triangle?

A: It was the focus of where the energy in that particular area was focused.

OK. We know, we know, we know. But we’re going to say to you that we need to bring it to a close. We would invite you if you’re interested in Atlantis, read, research, look, but the thing we would say to you is go within. That’s what’s important. How does what you know and feel, how does it fit for you and what does it do for your life today. Atlantis did exist. Don’t let anyone tell you it didn’t. It did. It was real. It was a marvelous, wonderful, focused point of consciousness in existence that was not only created by those on Earth but primarily created by other beings and as a gift to your beautiful planet. And all that ever experienced Atlantis in your soul’s history you have something that’s rising again and that’s really what Atlantis arising is about. How is it rising in your life. What’s happening in your consciousness. What’s your driving force. And a very large part of that point of consciousness is going to come together again and I believe you’re going to know beauty that exists far beyond what you knew at that time. But yes, it was a physical, real experience to your consciousness on this planet. A time that you knew great intergalactic contact. You were able to communicate and interact with others on other worlds as much as you know how to do it on other continents. It’s not lost to you. It’s there. And if you were a part of it, it will tug at your heart and you will want to know about it but most importantly how do you do it again. How do you bring that paradise to your planet again. And we leave you in love and I am Salem.

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~ following the title is Lemuria: Paradise Found and Lost I, 04.06.2008 ~

Exploring The Wonders of Atlantis I

Series on Atlantis, Lemuria and Ancient Egypt
(Salem The Great Light channeled Through Diandra)

THIS IS SALEM and as always we come to you with the greatest of respect for humanity. We are going to speak of a time you know as Atlantis, a time known as Lemuria and a time known as Ancient Egypt. Know that all that is said is being said in a fable form that you can understand because it is so difficult for you to move into concepts that do not have time and space nor three dimensional form as you know these to be today. As we speak to you of these ancient times, know time and space does not truly exist. In all that we say to you, please think of Atlantis as a state of consciousness. That’s what all of your existence truly is. It is merely points of consciousness that you are choosing to experience.

When we speak to you of Atlantis, we will speak to you, first of all of the physical form and then we will speak to you of how Atlantis was governed. We also desire to speak to you of the spiritual, the technological and the scientific nature of Atlantis. All of these have rudiments in your society today. Perhaps you will be able to see this connection as we move through some of your forgotten memories of what seem to you as ancient experiences on this planet.

THE FIRST ATLANTEANS

Atlantis began with an extremely small population. Atlantis was created by population from beings that came to your planet to help your planet. They came to reawaken humanities spirituality. They came to teach of the beauty of life. They came to help humanity understand that life was a beautiful experience that existed not within the framework that they thought it did but outside of time and space. They taught that life could exist in a framework of merely experiencing the expression that they were. Humanity was struggling with their own existence. There were many warlike communities that battled each other. There was no guidance or leadership. Whoever was the strongest ruled. However there were many cries that went out for help for the planet and if there was a Divine Being, could and would that Being help them?

The answer to their cries for help came from beings who arrived and set up a community to teach humanity their own beauty and power and love. Atlantis started out as a very small community being populated by other beings throughout the galaxy.

When the community was set in place, then the beings from the community went out into the villages to tell the people that there was a community they could come to if they chose. They told humanity that in this community they could find the answers for which they searched. They told them there was plenty of food and housing in Atlantis. They told them they had constructed these beautiful, beautiful buildings in Atlantis called temples. Some of the people chose to migrate into Atlantis. Once they entered into Atlantis they seldom left to go back home. In the beginning it was a very small trickling that came to this newly constructed place called Atlantis. This continued for many thousands of years in the new wondrous community called Atlantis. As Atlantis grew, the human population began to reawaken to all that they were. Humanity had descended to a very low standard of understanding and intellect. They were in awe as they entered into this new community. They felt that this was a God-like place and indeed for them it was. A Garden of Eden, if you would.

As humanity themselves began to remember their own greatness, those that had come to help humanity began to retract. They would visit to see how humanity was doing but no longer was an intricate part of humanity. Your distant memory of Atlantis is mostly of the time humanity was the populace of Atlantis. You have nearly forgotten the wonderful beings that came here and set the structure to help you regain the consciousness that you had lost.

CRYSTAL PLATEAUS

What are the physical concepts of Atlantis? Atlantis represents the greatest of beauty. Atlantis represents not only beauty to behold with your eyes, but beauty radiating through all the Atlantean consciousness. You can relate this to what you feel in the beauty of crystals. Crystals do have an energy that is innate within their life form and, indeed, is an expression of consciousness. You think of Atlantis as having this wonderful crystalline energy or conductive power, as it were, and innate beauty.

Eons ago in a time known as Atlantis, and please follow what we say as though you were listening to a long forgotten story. In the time of Atlantis, there were three very large hills. Indeed they were very large plateaus, as it were. These plateaus were solid crystal plateaus. Stairs were carved out in the plateaus and on the top of each plateau there was a beautiful temple. Each temple was different. One temple was square in its structure and had large columns standing from the floor to the roof. The top of the temple was a flat roof and on the flat roof was a great beacon of a very large crystalline energy that sent forth and received messages throughout the galaxy. This was known as the Temple of Communication. Whatever communication that was sent forth throughout your galaxy, was sent and received through this crystalline transmitter. The messages were translated and transmitted. There was another plateau with stairs carved out that was slightly higher then the one of the Temple of Communication and that was the Temple of Healing. The Temple of Healing was inclusive of all healing. It was inclusive of what you consider to be your emotional, your mental, your spiritual or your physical healing. This was the largest of all the temples. This temple had eight sides. On each side was a very defined sector of healing. Around each sector was a beautiful, deep blue pool of water. The water itself was energized with healing powers. You carry that concept forward into your culture today as certain places of water have become well known to your population as having miraculous healing powers.

Around each pool of water at the Temple of Healing was the healing properties with which humanity would connect, but not only humanity. You were known throughout your universe for this Healing Temple and many would come for healing. Many other cultures and beings that were not Earth originated or Earth bound would come to experience this great Temple of Healing. The Healing Temple of Atlantis was a Mecca of interaction and healing. In the center of the Healing Temple was a huge, huge crystal chamber. If one just wanted balancing, to become more energized, or if you just desired to have an experience that would place you in the highest of spiritual possibilities for your soul you entered this beautiful crystal chamber. This was the Healing Temple of Atlantis.

There was also the Temple of Philosophy that sat on the third crystal plateau. Philosophy was much discussed. There were many, many discussions of life, life forms, what life was about, and the creative process. Atlanteans were extremely intelligent. They were very mental beings and they dearly loved having discussion. Many of those souls that were especially deeply imbedded in the philosophical area of Atlantis later incarnated during the high philosophical time of your Greek culture.

THE TRIUNE OF THREE

Atlanteans were highly developed intellectually. They searched deeply into the philosophies of life; not necessarily the spiritual or what you consider religious, but rather they were very philosophical. This philosophical group ruled Atlantis for thousands upon thousands of years. Atlantis was always ruled by a Triune. A Triune of Three, each having what you might think of today as their own cabinets, assistants or associates. The Triune of Three was always composed amazingly enough from just one group of people. It did not consist of a variety, such as a healer, a communicator, and a scientist. As long as it was the Philosophical Triune that ruled Atlantis, it was a time of great peace. It was a time when all things were working in harmony. That was the basic energy that was the pervasive experience of life in Atlantis and it prevailed for hundreds of thousands of years.

SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY

Across the river from these three beautiful crystal plateaus and the three temples that stood upon the plateaus was the technological and scientific community. That particular community’s structures were not so beautiful. They were not constructed of crystal. Their appearance gave a more sterile looking environment being made of a pale yellow stucco like material. They were square and rectangular very large one-story buildings. The Temples sat on the left side of the great river and the technical and scientific community on the right side. On this side of the river you found those that dedicated themselves to developing new technologies and how could they expand their present technologies. They were consumed by technology, and this is what led to Atlantis’s downfall.

This is not unlike a potential problem you face today, my friends. Technology is a wonderful thing if technology is developed within its proper parameters as the proper instrument of humanities betterment. But when technology begins to become the force that drives society, there is a dehumanizing of your society and you begin to lose the very fiber that makes life on this planet so special and unique.

THE VERY HIGH MASTER

In the middle of this river sat the most glorious of all structures in Atlantis. That magnificent structure was the one in which the Very High Master resided. While the Triune governed Atlantis, the Master was the one that had the communicative ability between all the galactic connections that aligned with your planet at that time. This being known as the Master was a God-like figure to the Atlanteans. This is quite like your religions today that feel they must have a God-like being that is the intermediary between you and the Creator. So it was with Atlantis.

The Master was never seen. The populace never saw the Master. The Master would reside in the Temple at times, and would be absent at times. Whatever communication the Master sent forth, went out in a thought decree from the Master primarily picked up by the philosophers of the time because they were the ones most in tune. But what was truly amazing was that whatever thoughts were sent forth by the Master seemed to be so pervasive that they influenced the populace without they even realizing.

Today your mass consciousness has the same powerful influence upon all life upon your planet. This began primarily from one Intergalactic Being known as the Master. This Being may be what you have come down through history to be thought of as God. So many of humanity feel the need to think of God as a persona or figure and it may well be from the memory of the Master. And that’s all the words that we would give this Being because it’s far beyond us to know of all that this particular high energy was capable of being.

MENTAL IS EMPHASIZED IN ATLANTIS

How did the people reside in Atlantis and what did they do? The Atlanteans were people who were very mental. Their mental capacity was the thing that gave them such importance. They believed themselves to be spiritual but their spirituality always had to be analyzed. It had to be understood. It had to have some kind of a foundation or a basis that made sense to them. And if it did not you would find they would go on a deep search for the understanding to life.

As the scientific and technology community began to become more prominent in Atlantis, less and less the spiritual nature or the questioning of life took place. Life became more and more mental and focused on what could be created. The creations were quite different from today. For instance the artwork was composed of pure light in Atlantis. Atlanteans didn’t paint pictures on canvas. Art was a light display. The light display would change with the thoughts of the person looking at it. Thoughts were an understood means of communication. Atlanteans were able to communicate with thoughts when their verbal language did not serve them. They loved sound and had a highly sophisticated and structured language they enjoyed and saw as a sign of their superior mental creative ability.

TECHNOLOGY AND CRYSTALS

Technology within itself often came from the crystals. How could the crystals be used to evolve into more uses for humanity? How could they be used to send out signals into a greater depth of the universe? How could they be used in order to give more power to inventions? So much of the Atlantean technology was developed by the use of crystalline energy and power. You are beginning to rediscover that technology today.

The scientific community of Atlantis became truly driven by their superior abilities and their superior access to information. The scientist was highly supported by energies from many other worlds and information was freely given to the scientific communities that they might learn how to develop and to expand in whatever way they chose to do. However, it was truly the scientific community that became the downfall of Atlantis more than any other. And we’ll return to that in a moment.

HOW DID THE TRIUNE GOVERN?

Now that we’ve set the stage for what was the foundation of Atlantis, how did the Triune of Three govern the people? What was the government of Atlantis? There was a Golden Age of Atlantis. That Golden Age lasted a very long time, as you perceive time to be today. During the Golden Age of Atlantis it wasn’t a matter of laws being made and handed down to the populace but it was simply a matter of order, of declaration. The Triune defined what would take place in this particular season, or what would be the order of events, and what were the priorities of the people. The government was not so much a rule-orientated body to rule the populace but it was more of an instrument of order to what was taking place in the communities.

~ following the title is: Exploring The Wonders of Atlantis II, 30.05.2008 ~